Same-sex marriage opponents call for an uprising

Posted on: 9:25 pm, January 4, 2014, by and , updated on: 09:58pm, January 4, 2014

HIGHLAND, Utah – Billed as a call for an uprising, opponents of same-sex marriage gathered for a meeting in Highland on Saturday.

Former Graham County, Ariz., Sheriff Richard Mack spoke about issues concerning the U.S. Constitution, including same-sex marriage.

Mack says that since it appears that Herbert and other elected leaders have failed at their jobs, it’s up to law enforcement and everyday citizens to deny same-sex marriage.

“The people of Utah have rights, too, not just the homosexuals. The homosexuals are shoving their agenda down our throats,” Mack said.

Cherilyn Eager, who helped organize the event, says that it’s time for the citizens of Utah to speak up for their rights.

“We need people to stand up and speak out. We need to get noisy. We need some outrage,” Eager said. “It is about the sheriffs now coming out to protect the people.”

Mack says that the federal government’s ruling doesn’t overrule Utah’s laws.

“That’s a lie. That’s an absolute lie. We have a right to raise our kids without homosexuals being part of the Boy Scouts, the schools and teachers and doing everything. They can be all that, but don’t shove your agenda down my kid’s throat. We have a right to raise our kids how we want not how you want,” Mack said.

Mack and Eager urge citizens to call upon their local leaders because change will come from the bottom-up.

“The way you take back freedom in America is one county at a time. The sheriffs need to defend the county clerks in saying, ‘No, we’re not going to issue marriage licenses to homosexuals,’” Mack said.


  • Christopher Beebe says:

    These people are REFUSING to give up their hatred and detest – in my opinion, this call for an uprising is merely “The Hate Strikes Back” in disguise.

  • Jason says:

    Shoving agenda down their throats??? The only agenda for homosexuals is to live their lives and enjoy their civil rights that they are entitled to. Sorry Sheriff, the US Constitution trumps Utah state law.

    • Barbara Ryan says:

      I totally agree with you Jason. The BOYS don’t really care about this issue until their PARENTS teach them bigotry and hatefulness. I wonder how they feel their rights are being “stomped on”. Being homosexual has nothing to do with learning about their country and completing badges for self sufficiency. I don’t recall there ever being a badge that requires ANY child to recruit another child for homosexuality or even for heterosexuality. Why is this an issue? Are parents that afraid that their children will somehow become homosexual? It’s not a freaking disease. It’s a way of life. It’s who you were born to be.

    • Natalie says:

      I agree. As well if you think about it society oppresses them to do anything in public even hold hands, so if you think about it who is really shoving their agenda down who’s throat.

    • Kyle says:

      Actually the Constitution doesn’t mention marriage outright or implicitly. The decision of Marriage is to be decided by the state.

      “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people” – Tenth Amendment

      • northalabama says:

        yes, marriage is to be decided by the states. until, that is, a state passes a bigoted law that unfairly limits the rights of individuals and is declared unconstitutional.

        the constituion has to be taken in whole. you can’t just pick out the parts that prove your point and ignore the rest – like many religious people tend to do…

  • Anonymous says:

    And why is ANYONE giving a Sheriff from AZ, any attention?

  • HeyMrsP says:

    “Mack says that the federal government’s ruling doesn’t overrule Utah’s laws.”

    Ummm.. yeah, it kinda does. Because Utah is part of the UNITED States of America, and we have a federal Constitution that rules all.

    The same thing happened when the government forced integration, too. Remember how states didn’t want to give that up? Oh how inter-racial marriages and relationships used to be illegal too? Sometimes the gov’t has to come in and intervene because a state is acting like a bigot.

    Marriage equality is a win for Utah and for the US.

    • reedp938 says:

      I’m sure some of them remember the interracial marriage thing–they stole their predecessors’ notes, after all.

    • Well stated, Mrs. P.

      • Fred Lyman says:

        Not only are they a state among the United States but I seem to recall in state history, a time when they promised to give up their own ‘unorthodox’ marriage practice to become a part of the USA.
        Irony, anyone?

    • BeeGood says:

      So HeyMrsP, are you saying our founding fathers fought a revolutionary war to break away from the central power of England just to turn around and give all the power to the federal government?

      • gaylib says:

        uh, yeah. the issue wasn’t “central control”, it was lack of representation. Utah willfully joined the union, and they are duly represented on the federal level. Your comparison to the founding fathers is moronic.

      • BeeGood says:

        So gaylib, you agree with the constitution that it gives representation to the people?

  • Jason says:

    Another thing they’re not realizing is the majority of the state is in favor of marriage equality. All’s there going by is a vote for 2004. Things have changed since then. The poll on this site said 80% in favor. So a small percentage of the people are going to “Uprise” to 80% of the state population?

  • Jason says:

    Oh, and that meeting was mostly police officers? How can you count on police officers to perform their duty when they’re participating in a meeting about an “Uprising”? And we’re supposed to trust these people to protect the citizens without bias? I would expect all law enforcement, National guard, or Military personnel involved be fired, discharged, etc.

    • BeeGood says:

      So Jason are you saying that all law enforcement who have kept their oath to up hold the constitution should be fired??

      • Jason says:

        They’re not upholding the constitution. They’re promoting an “uprising” to deny constitutional guaranteed civil liberties. Look below and in the posts you’ll see a lot of excerpts from the US Constitution, The oath that law enforcement officers swear to when they get sworn in, and you’ll also see the excerpts about conspiring against the Government (uprising). So no, they are not upholding the constitution. They are violating the US Constitution (The one that matters, that trumps the state’s constitution). Don’t tell me they’re upholding Amendment 3. Whether they like it or not, that Amendment was found unconstitutional.

  • Roger says:

    Meeting was mostly police officers???? Are you kidding me!! It was full of concerned citizens!!

    • Jason says:

      They said the meeting was organized by Constitution Peace Officers & Sherriff’s organization. So that would lead me to believe that law enforcement officers are involved. The only one’s they called out by name are retired ones. Either way, what are these citizens concerned about? Maybe they should go spend their time on things that concern them. And in their attempts to block a whole class of people rights and liberty, the have the gull to say that they’re going to take freedom back one county at a time. The only freedom they’re losing is the freedom to deny other people their civil liberties.

      • Shawn Lee says:

        Jason, your comment ” The only freedom they’re losing is the freedom to deny other people their civil liberties. ” is EXACTLY what the issue boils down to. Well said.

      • Erik Christy says:

        A wicked part of me actually hopes some of these law-enforcement officers actually try to do something extralegal in enforcing their views of what the law should be.

        The attention their organisation gets will increase tenfold, and not in a way they’ll like.

      • R. V. F. says:

        If you want to start firing people who do not fulfill their oath, i suggest taking a look at the current chief law enforcement administrator and “leader from behind”…who cares little about such things…

    • Eric S. Ward says:

      you mean concerned bigots, right?

    • Dennis says:

      Concerned citizens? What are they concerned about? The money that will be pouring in from the issuance of marriage licenses? The money brought into small businesses for the weddings that will occur? Or are they concerned about the fact that they need to know what is going on in my bedroom, even though it’s really none of their business? God forbid everyone have equal rights in this country.

  • bayhuntr says:

    I wonder how they felt about the Mormon Church sticking their nose into California business and Prop 8? You know they loved it. Religious extremist are just bad people.

  • mediumharris says:

    This is the most homophobic piece of garbage I’ve ever seen.

  • “We have a right to raise our kids how we want ”

    No, actually you don’t. You do not have a right to raise your kids to be hateful bigots. That’s called CHILD ABUSE.

    If you want to teach your kids that other people are inferior to them, then CPS needs to take your kids away. End of story.

  • All I can say is this: What would jesus do if he came down to Earth? He never hated, he never used bigotry. you all want to be Christians? That is so laughable!

  • Mark says:

    Lucy please do not presume that you speak for God. Someone else marrying the person they love in no way takes your rights away.

  • Kent D. Madsen says:

    Haters are very entertaining. Basically he is saying ‘we don’t want to know”. I got news for him and fellow haters, we have been around for centuries. Wouldn’t it be healthier to have things in the open and accepted rather than hidden. That’s like saying ‘don’t tell me there is a gas leak’ thereby making it not true.

  • jpegorino says:

    Who cares if gay people want to be married? The honest truth is that it isn’t the Mormon thing to do, that’s why people are complaining. If the Mormon church said gay marriage was all good the nobody would complain. And for the genius in the video, yes federal government always trumps state….duh

  • “It is time to refuse to tip-toe around people who claim respect, consideration, SPECIAL TREATMENT, or any other kind of immunity, on the grounds that they have a religious faith, as if having faith were a privilege-endowing virtue, as if it were noble to believe in unsupported claims and ancient superstitions. It is neither.” AC Grayling

    Utah’s ban on freedom is the “Tyranny of the Majority” Alexis de Tocqueville writes of.
    Racism and other types of discrimination and intolerance, often supported by religions, can flourish in a Theocracy (Utah, Iran)
    Checks and balances are put in place by the Constitution in order to prevent this from happening.
    John F. Kennedy: “I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute.
    “Sometimes things become possible if we want them bad enough.” T.S. Eliot

  • “Marriage is a civil contract. You might as well make a law to say how many children a man shall have, as to make a law to say how many wives he shall have. It would be as sensible to make a law to say how many horses or oxen he shall possess, or how many cows his wife shall milk.” —Brigham Young

  • rextrek says:

    look at the audience…..enuff said……….time to Move on……next..REAL problems the populace of Utah face each day…..

  • Brandon says:

    I think I just witnessed the founding of a Utah version of the Ku Klux Klan.

  • rextrek says:

    this is just too sad…….don’t these people have More Pressing problems to worry ..say….Homelessness, unemployment….hunger in America…? I mean really…… has THEIR Lives been affected by other people marrying????

    • That Is a Question I have Asked MANY times, How does it personally or physically hurt you in any way, If I marry my Girl friend? and the only answer I can get from them Is the bible says………… so I tell them that still does NOT tell me how it affects you personally. and then they just babble on more quotes form the bible, there is no way to get an answer to that Question

  • Susan says:

    So the persecuted become the persecutors. (Or continue to be…)

    • It is proof of a base and low mind for one to wish to think with the masses or majority, merely because the majority is the majority. Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people.
      – Giordano Bruno

  • I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that (name) I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution and laws of the State
    of Arizona, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same and defend them against all enemies,foreign and domestic, and that I will faithfully and impartially discharge the duties of the office of (office) according to the best of my ability, so help me God (or so I do affirm).
    reference: Arizona Constitution, Article 6, Section 26, Oath of Office

  • David Ham says:

    Apparently this “Constitutional” organization forgot to read this part of the Constitution:

    “No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States…nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

  • Maughn Gregory says:

    U.S. Code › Title 18 › Part I › Chapter 115 › § 2384 – Seditious conspiracy

    “If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, OR TO OPPOSE BY FORCE THE AUTHORITY THEREOF, OR BY FORCE TO PREVENT, HINDER, OR DELAY THE EXECUTION OF ANY LAW OF THE UNITED STATES, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

    • Ianto says:

      Also don’t forget

      United States Constitution Article VI Clause 2. The establishment of the Supremacy Clause.

      This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.

      So his whole little Utah law overrides Federal law is in violation of Constitution he claims to love.

      • Darla Tolsma says:

        State Law versus Federal Law – Which rules?

        THE SUPREMACY CLAUSE Article. VI. This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding. ‘The text decrees these to be the highest form of law in the U.S. legal system, and mandates that all state judges must follow federal law when a conflict arises between federal law and either the state constitution or state law of any state.

        (Note that the word “shall” is used, which makes it a necessity, a compulsion.) However, the Supremacy Clause only applies if the federal government is acting in pursuit of its constitutionally authorized powers, as noted by the phrase “in pursuance thereof” in the actual text of the Supremacy Clause itself.’

        The “supremacy clause” is the most important guarantor of national union. It assures that the Constitution and federal laws and treaties take precedence over state law and binds all judges to adhere to that principle in their courts.

  • michael says:

    Wow do do these people have no life get over it

  • Linda says:

    I see we have a noisy MINORITY.

  • curt says:

    Humans are so egotistical, that they believe the universe would not go on without them. They are so obsessed with this that they have created dozens of gods with their varied afterlives. It is time for humans to move beyond imaginary gods and treat everybody with respect.

  • While I agree that this is absolutely ridiculous, some of you might want to watch your comments. Bigotry goes both ways. Don’t be just as ignorant, you hurt the cause when you do that.

  • RWC says:

    Shut your mouth, Mack, then there is no access to the throat!

  • Jessie says:

    I cannot this guy can spout about “his” freedoms and in the same sentance think it’s okay to try to repress other’s freedoms. He is free to marry who he wants. THAT is a freedom that everyone should have. This guy is the worst kind of bigot and hater. He should NOT, nor should of ever have been in any kind of law enforcement. Scary to think…

    • That is WHY he chose Law Enforcement. To ENFORCE others to do his will. I always thaught there was a psychological problem involved when one was more concerned about someone ELSE’s conduct than his own.

      We must not allow our religious fervor to blind us to the essential fact that no religious faith is secure when it meshes its authority with that of the state. Separation is not relative. It is absolute, or it is nonexistent.
      – Joseph Bryson

  • Cindy says:

    If you look at the history of this man that calls himself sheriff you will see he is NOT aSheriff. You will also find that he is the backbone of ant-igoverment and wants to promote that for which he stands. Without goverment and law where would we be. Don’t follow a hater. Make your own choice and remember the majority of us, gays and straight, black and white, are Christen.

    • Examine the religious principles which have, in fact, prevailed in the world, and you will scarcely be persuaded that they are anything but sick men’s dreams.
      – David Hume

      “As the government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; …The United States is not a Christian nation any more than it is a Jewish or a Mohammedan nation.”
      — Treaty of Tripoli (1797), carried unanimously by the Senate and signed into law by John Adams

  • megabhau says:

    Me thinks the lady doth protest too much.

  • kdt says:

    I, for one will fight against homosexual marrage to the end.

    • I’m sorry to hear that you want SPECIAL RIGHTS to be exempted from equalities legislation – To have the “Special Right” to discriminate against people.

      Bigotry will NOT prevail.

    • Dennis says:

      And I, as a homosexual, will never take the right away from you to fight. Fight all you want to, just realize what kind of example you are to your children and the children around you. That’s all. I mean, I don’t care, you’re not going to win anyway, so do what you gotta!!

    • Carl says:

      Continue to fight Justice kdt, You will lose. The world is becoming a better place. But those days when you could discriminate freely and oppress at your will are going to be gone with the wind.

    • WHY? how does a marriage between 2 men or 2 women hurt YOU PERSONALLY in any way? how is it going to change your LIFE in any way? IT WILL NOT!!!!!! you are just full of hate.

    • Erik Christy says:

      Ok, kdt, you can join the other wingnut on a hunger strike, then.

    • Jess says:

      What about homosexual marriage?? Rather than marrage….just sayin…proofread

  • Heather says:

    How sad for you, ktd.

    • kdt says:

      Well your entitled to your comment and so am I. That most certainly does not make it a sad day for me, especially when it makes me happy.

      • RWC says:

        It’s my pleasure to ensure your efforts are in vain.

      • APT says:

        It makes you happy to abuse others? Then today is a sad day for you. Marriage Equality is what it is EQUALITY. You are going to be fighting a loosing battle on this and it makes you upset doesn’t it? For you to actively deny any LGBTQ individual rights means that you believe that we are nothing more than animals by the side of the road and I feel sorry for you because you have been bitten and now your screaming at the top of your lungs because it hurts to think that your taunting and stick poking eventually over time has given you and all those who hate our community a miserable kink in your neck that is so stiff that you can’t even see the front of your own nose. I pity you.

  • The notion that a person’s constitutional rights may be subject to a majority vote is itself anathema,
    – Judge Albert V Bryan, Jr., 1993

  • The govnernment did not force the Boy Scouts to accept gays.

    As for “marriage”: The government has no say in who is “married” and who is not. It DOES decide who can, and cannot, sign finanical contracts. Regardless of what they call it, ALL marriages are nothing more than Domestic Partnership Contracts, when it comes to government and the courts.

    Society has always decided who is “married” and who is not. That has not changed, and will never change. You are not required to refer to a man’s “husband”, or a woman’s “wife.”

    So relax. This is much ado about nothing.

  • A lot of hate over a non-issue. It’s only fair that citizens have the same rights to sign financial contracts. And whether or not they’re “married” is for society to say, regardless of what the government “license” says.

    Nothing has changed except to put more of the financial burden for health care, etc, on the private sector where it belongs. Nobody is “married”, in my mind, who wasn’t before. I’m not required to refer to a man’s “husband”, or a woman’s “wife.”

    So who cares? Relax.

  • anonymous says:

    I hear the divorce rate among homosexuals is astronomical. Just wait until they get stuck paying alimony to each other. It won’t be long and the homosexuals will be begging to just shack up again.

    • Amber says:

      Yeah, I hear that the divorce rate might even catch up with the rate for heterosexuals… simply astronomical…

    • Jamie Johnson says:

      Well, aren’t you the brave one, “anonymous.” You know, I hear the divorce rate among heterosexuals is astronomical, too. Of course, I somehow think you know that… with ever alimony check you’re writing.

  • Looks like the President will have to call in the National Guard in Utah and elsewhere to stop the violence by evil, bigoted hatemongers. Now where have I heard about that kind of thing before?…

  • I’m curious to know what they plan to do once they’ve “risen up.” If the Court of Last Resort disagrees with them are they going to go rogue? Will they burn people at the stake?

    They sound like they’d fit right in living in Iran.

    • Yeah, this is what I’m wondering. What precisely are they planning on DOING? They want an uprising? With what? Rifles? Pitchforks and torches?? Public hangings? I mean, really. No one is forcing anyone to officiate a homosexual marriage or send their kids to a homosexual BSA meeting. It’s all a matter of personal choice, and how people choose to interact with the world around them.

  • Beth says:

    Who knew people could be so scared of love. Being gay is a small fraction of what makes a person. Hate in any form should not be accepted.

  • Shane says:

    I’m re-posting what a poster said on this joke of a news story since it should not be ignored…

    U.S. Code › Title 18 › Part I › Chapter 115 › § 2384 – Seditious conspiracy

    “If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, OR TO OPPOSE BY FORCE THE AUTHORITY THEREOF, OR BY FORCE TO PREVENT, HINDER, OR DELAY THE EXECUTION OF ANY LAW OF THE UNITED STATES, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

  • Amber says:

    Brilliant suggestions there. Let us get into a shooting contest with the federal government. Mind you, that is the sort of thing that this group wants if you follow anything on them, but I hope no one else is stupid enough to follow suit.

    As a state, Utah agreed to follow the rule of law as interpreted by the courts. There is an appeals process. If at the end of all their appeals, they still do not like the answer and do not want to obey the law, or if they decide not to follow the process, and should they do something like this, they are basically taking the first steps to succeed from the United States.

    The first responses are simple–mapped out by integrating schools. Federal Marshals to escort people to the offices, clerks and sheriffs who get in the way being arrested. Perhaps things like federal money (which we are very dependent on as a state, btw) withheld until we shape up. Perhaps certain governmental services removed from state control.

    Should sheriffs start shooting, or citizens, it could get ugly fast. Because that is a declaration of war. And all the stockpiled guns of people like the Constitution Party won’t mean spit against helicopters, drones or tanks.

    There can be disagreement over the ruling and whether it is right or not. But that is the process we have established and which all states have agreed to follow. It is the one in the US Constitution. And if you reject the Constitution, you are rejecting Statehood. And if you do it violently, the response will be equally violent.

    • BeeGood says:

      This is a peaceful movement. There was no hate expressed and no up rising planned. We are law abiding citizens. Do not let the media cause conflict that doesn’t exist.

      • Carl says:

        This group doesn’t sound all that PEACEFUL. I know ” Speech ” is Protected under the First Amendment , Unless it is akin to yelling ” FIRE” in a crowded Theater and inciting a riot. However every one has a Right to choose to follow there own ideals even if they are attached to very small minds that are lead by and Fertilized by hate and Prejudice. Then again Jesus was Killed by the Sanhedrin when he said that ” GOD” did not need The peoples money,and they should feed the poor. To Love everyone and to” Do Unto Others as you have done unto you.” That really blew up the Rabbi’s Cassocks. Much the same way this issue is having an affect on the Bigoted Biased people in this Country. Marriage is a ” Ceremonial Blessing,” Sanctioned by a RELIGIOUS Organization. No one is twisting a Church’s arm to preform a ” Blessing” HOWEVER There is a Legal Issue here that needs to be addressed and that is the ” Contractual ” part. This Union is a Contract of legal issuance that allows and Guarantees the same rights Under law provided All people who enter into this Contract to share a financial burden and reap those rewards or losses TOGETHER. that is the only issue that should be Fore front. MARRIAGE is a BLESSING that Should be left to the FAITHS to determine if they want to SANCTIFY this union In a RELIGIOUS setting. Really No One needs a piece of Paper to to say Your Married if in your heart and mind you believe and Live as such! NOT TO UNDERMINE THIS ISSUE AT HAND.

    • Susan Harms says:

      do you honestly think our military will fight us citizens no they will not

  • Erik Christy says:

    Sane people of Utah, you have the rest of the country’s sympathy.

    • Amber says:

      Thanks… we appreciate your sympathy. Salt Lake is an oasis in the middle of the crazy, and is not a bad place. But it is surrounded….

  • Scott Alvey says:

    Sounds a lot like the Salem witch hunts or the crusades…believe what I do or die…Pretty sad… I thought mankind had evolved beyond that.

  • david kranes, slc says:

    It’s too bad that Mack, as quoted, is illiterate.

  • Straight and support LGBT says:

    Funny I have had hetero-norm society shoved down my throat since birth, what colors to wear told a role I was to fit and behave under,it was shoved down, my throat, in school, religion, jobs, and just walking down the street getting cat calls. His comments are just from hate or bigoted views that have grown to prejudice against a group of people unlike his own beliefs. SICK!

  • Shorebreak says:

    I guess federal marshals can shoot the seditionists down in the snow like wild dogs.

  • J. Pullos says:

    hahahahahahaha! Ridiculous.

  • Edna says:

    Let them be my hell. It’s not like they go after the straight people. There human beings to. Bunch of hypocrites

  • Cheryl Haws says:

    We appreciate Fox for telling the full range of the story in Utah. At the same time I’m trying to transcend the events that transpired! What I discovered was that Richard Mack actually brought in a higher state of consciousness than we had the week before. According to Dr. David Hawkins anger is much higher than disappointment, enslavement, craving and denying. In this sense, we are moving higher. Still, my prayer is that we can continue up the ladder into the states of love and joy that so many of us experienced earlier this week.

    The people who attended our wedding freely held to their religious beliefs while exhibiting unconditional love; the individuals that attended are the heroes and examples we may follow. We must never forget the power of these actions, and we must guard and preserve the rights of all religious belief systems. Simultaneously, the political arena must provide equality and religious organizations must allow that equality to serve everyone.

    The religious majority must hold to their beliefs within their religious institutions, but must also remember that when we step foot into society a different set of rules and all of our diversities are allowed to be present there. The sacredness of marriage for the LDS religion and their belief that a man and a woman are to be the focus may stand strong and be held with respect within the institution and among its members. However, our political leaders must realize that thousands of religious belief systems exist simultaneously, in the public arena we must respect everyone’s rights as they are established by the constitution.

    All these things must co-exist with respect. Simultaneously, I call on the LGBTQ community, to establish age appropriate moral guidelines for the exposure of LGBTQ issues. We need to ensure that we face these issues honorably, morally, and with great accountability. Before this can be done, age appropriate LGBTQ moral behaviors must be defined and established and negotiated within our community. I believe this is the way forward.

  • Seamus Ruah says:

    Someone wants to get arrested, so they can be a martyr.
    /Richard Mack.

  • PavePusher says:

    “The people of Utah have rights, too, not just the homosexuals. The homosexuals are shoving their agenda down our throats,” Mack said.”

    Mr. Mack (or anyone, really), please let us know exactly what is being “shov(ed) down (your) throats”. Specific items please. What actions are you being forced to do against your will? Which of your Rights are being violated or rescinded? Please explain in detail how your marriage is affected by the marriage of someone not related or known to you.

    Please provide citations to evidence. Thank you for your time.

  • Marty Kroitchner says:

    I think a solution to this might just be for the county clerks to quit. This way they don’t have to burdened with the responsibilities “forced” on them by the state. They can write letters, pout, cross their arms in frustrated bigotry and indignation. They are free to proudly walk away from their positions knowing they are doing “the right thing”,

    The counties can then hire people willing to serve the tax paying, law abiding public. The citizens of Utah who don’t support laws that would restrict constitutionally protected freedoms will rock out with our loved ones. Our family members, neighbors, co-workers, and fellow citizens in the great state of Utah, who have found the rare and cherished wonder of happiness and love in the company of another human being — disgusting though that maybe to some.

  • Michael says:

    If you Mormons wanted Americans to stop thinking you belong to a cult, stories like these don’t help.

  • anon says:

    > “The people of Utah have rights, too, not just the homosexuals. The
    > homosexuals are shoving their agenda down our throats,”

    A possible quote from a psychology lecture where the topic is projection.

  • United States Constitution, Article VI, Clause 2:

    “This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.”

    Yo, dude. A federal judge ruled the law unconstitutional. Failure to follow that ruling would be to fail to follow the constitution.

  • most interesting to see that some TrueChristians are insisting that their bible is wrong. There are no exceptions to the rule from the Christian god that one must obey any one in power, since this god supposedly put them, and their laws, into place. There is no exception “oh, but if you personally don’t like it, then you can do whatever you want.”

    one can simply replace “homosexuals” with “African Americans” to show that what Sheriff Mack says to be nothing more than personal fears and hatreds given form. He, and his compatriots, are nothing more than the usual bigots that we’ve always had.

    ““The people of Utah have rights, too, not just the African Americans. The African Americans are shoving their agenda down our throats,” Mack said.”

  • John Richter says:

    God put woman on earth to be mans helper, the bible tells us. Women are to teach their daughters to be subservient to men. Why are people not following Gods word?

    • jeff keller says:

      amen brother

    • Jack says:

      Separation of church and state…. You myths about what god what’s is relevant when it pertains to the law. It’s up to each person to live up to the standards of whichever invisible man they believe in, it’s not the federal government’s responsibly to force your myths & superstitions by law. Doesn’t anyone know anymore why this country was founded? Do they teach this stuff in school anymore?

      If your religious views are against it, then don’t do it. But stop using your religion as a means to restrict other peoples’ lives. You have the gall to suggest that the LGBT community is pushing their beliefs on you… I think it’s the other way around pal.

      • BIGNEVERMO says:

        The problem is these people think this is a Christian nation and they get to tell people how to live…OY VAY!

  • J. Moye says:

    Why is it that guys who really, really hate gays ltalk so much about things getting crammed down their throats?

  • scott says:

    How are Utahns this dumb? Please stop making the rational people in this state ashamed of the rest of us.

  • jeff keller says:

    men & woman that what to get married are sick-sick -sick in the head and need help I am a male and I wont never go with a man sick and god & the state of Utah will do the right thing………………….

  • Terri Hemker says:

    “The way you take back freedom in America is one county at a time.” one of them said…..Yup! Next they’ll be ‘taking back freedom’ away from black people.

  • Roger Prows says:

    So, the gays have an “agenda” he screams while selling membership to an organization he is a part of. Hmmm….

  • BeeGood says:

    Fred Lyman, I would answer your question, but every time I try to publish the truth about that meeting on this site they won’t post it. so you can go on thinking whatever you want the media is corrupt.

  • BeeGood says:

    You all are being manipulated by the media.

  • BeeGood says:

    The things stated in this story are not true.

  • JOEL5454 says:

    You have no right no civil rights mans law to go against GODS LAWS PERIOD!men making love to man gives you aids period! These mentality people or nothing but Freaks of nature,and what the hell are you going to do about it if we talk about any of you PERIOD!

  • Ming says:

    Come and get it you Neanderthal slugs. I’m your worst nightmare…a Progressive with a gun!

  • Susan Harms says:

    I believe the sherrifs the oath keepers were there to tell the people of utah that if we do not like the patriot act we can change it one county at a time by majority in our actions I do not believe they were on the side of these haters i believe they just got lost in trhe shuffle of these haters a small group of haters so as far as the oath keepers go I support you all the way…

  • Sally Lunn says:

    Ummm… Todd Tanner? Aren’t you playing for the wrong team here? Seriously dude, you need to check your own sexuality and start representing.

  • David from Midvale UT says:

    George Wallace tried this in Alabama. President Kennedy nationalized the Alabama State National Guard. ‘Nuf said.

  • Greg says:

    The only ‘disease’ you southerners need to cure is that kids killing one another with guns in schools, that is what this ahem, sherriff, needs to focus on to make your country better. Yes 2nd amendment, we get it.
    What a ‘free’ country you live in….not.
    Card carrying bigots.

  • Greg says:

    card carrying bigots

  • Greg says:

    this guy is a sherriff?

  • Exactly what rights are being violated? – Mob Rule -

    The Tyrrany of the Majority

  • Regan DuCasse says:

    Er, actually…the southwest territory, as agreed to by Mexico, and the Treaty of Hidalgo was BOUGHT and PAID for by the US for multimillions of dollars. Something like 45 million dollars.

    So even though Madison lodged a war just to do it and test the military of the US, eventually the land became the US through a contract signed by the Mexican gov’t.
    And there IS a receipt.
    Just sayin’.

  • Re “Uphold Gods Law”
    Our “Government of the people, by the people, for the people”
    is NOT a Theocracy.

  • It could be just me, but this ‘rally’ existed only out of white shabby rednecks….go figure.

  • Marcy says:

    This is perfection Rebecca!! THANK YOU! I want to copy and paste this for everyone to see!

  • Bob Barnes says:

    So the sheriffs should break the law? Yeah, that’s democracy.

  • Joe says:

    Exactly. The other day two young gentlemen knocked on my door and tried to recruit me into their lifestyle. Oddly enough, both of them had the first name of “Elder.”

  • Heather says:

    You are absolutely right!

  • Lucy says:

    You can try to push God out of it all you want, but I know what the ultimate outcome will be. It’s sad to see the Lord’s people in such a state as this, but it has been foretold for centuries by His prophets and thus it is no surprise to me.

  • Regan DuCasse says:

    Reread your comment, and looked up the info on the UTAH territory. Hmmm…interesting providence there.
    Native Americans aren’t native Mexicans, and Mexicans didn’t own it either.
    I like your post though!

  • rsldonk says:

    Which just formally legalized the armed robbery writ large of the Mexican-American War

  • RWC says:

    Your god has not use for me and I have no need for its prophets.

  • JJ says:

    Yes, prophets have been predicting doom and gloom if ____ happens (insert any social change) and yet the world has never ended. They’ve said for centuries that the world was always getting more and more wicked- yet today people still love each other and want to make the world better- so if we’ve been progressively getting more wicked over centuries and we’re where we are now, the world must have been absolutely perfect in every way back then! Maybe these “prophecies” are really just self-fulfilling prophecies of confirmation biases that churches use to keep you invested…

  • Well, you don’t have to push out anything that does not exist, so I’m not even trying……and I do hope that one day ‘the religious’ will stop forcing their agenda upon the rest of society, because it’s getting old, lame and annoying now!

  • @ Lucy Well, you don’t have to push out anything that does not exist, so I’m not even trying……and I do hope that one day ‘the religious’ will stop forcing their agenda upon the rest of society, because it’s getting old, lame and annoying now!

  • Darla says:

    You can cloak it in any religion or God or whatever it is still bigotry.

  • qwiowweuifn says:

    Lucy: Imaginary friends can’t be pushed, sorry. (Or pulled, or anything in the physical realm of the real world.)

  • Bill says:

    I just don’t understand how the law didn’t provide “equal protection” for all and how this became a constitutional issue? I just can’t get past the fact that heterosexual marriage (the law) was EQUALLY available to all people (expect for family and age issues) but that most homosexuals were not interested in that arrangement and choose not to participate. There was nothing stopping homosexual relationships or keeping them from making commitments, even legal ones, to each other. The real debate that needs to be happening is whether this is indeed an issue of rights, or just an issue of policy.

  • Shawn Lee says:

    You are very right and the American south of the 50′s and 60′s is a perfect example of a minority needing protection from a tyrannical majority. Alexis de Tocqueville was a very forward thinker, as were many of our Founding Fathers.

  • Bill says “There was nothing stopping homosexual relationships or keeping them from making commitments, even legal ones, to each other.”

    EXCEPT the second paragraphs of these state level constitutional amendments ….

    “…shall not create or recognize a legal status for relationships of unmarried individuals that intends to approximate the design, qualities, significance, or effects of marriage. Nor …. recognize another union, partnership, or other legal status to which is assigned the rights, benefits, obligations, qualities, or effects of marriage”

    explicitly does just that.

  • Michael says:

    I don’t understand why you think I shouldn’t have the right to marry husband or even why it’s of any concern to you.

  • Pat says:

    You are aware that argument was already defeated in court–when it was used to defend interracial marriage bans, aren’t you?

    That’s not a joke. They literally used that argument. It lost, because it is STUPID.

  • just don’t understand?

    READ “The Tyrrany of the Majority” for starters.

    The notion that a person’s constitutional rights may be subject to a majority vote is itself anathema,
    – Judge Albert V Bryan, Jr.,

  • Tim says:

    Bill, you could make exactly the same arguments against interracial marriages; that same-race marriage being available to everyone regardless of color was in some way “fair” and that interracial couples were free to pursue relationships.

    It’s a stupid argument and you know it.

  • David from Midvale UT says:

    Do YOU want the state to decide to whom YOU should be married or in any way limit YOUR choice? Should state government tell you that you have to marry some total stranger completely absent any emotional attachment? Your concept of “equal” is seriously inadequate.

  • I too have seen the Corporate Recruiters – Selling False Hope.

  • That’s perfectly alright in this state, Joe. Indeed, the local predominant faith sees nothing wrong with exporting their children around the globe to convert perfect strangers to their lifestyle. They train them up from birth, indoctrinate them even, to do precisely that. Then they have the audacity to call out random strangers for doing nothing more than simply wanting to live their lives as they choose. Can you IMAGINE the public outcry if the LGBT community built an “LGBT Training Center” next to the MTC in Provo and started sending out rainbow feathered-boa wearing companion pairs door to door in the state to try to convert people?? Just picture it in your mind for a second. LOL

  • Nothing to KILL or DIE for And no religion too
    Imagine all the people Living life in peace…
    You may say I’m a dreamer But I’m not the only one

    I hope someday you’ll join us

    And the world will be as one

    John Lennon

  • You’re a hate-filled little person, aren’t you.

    You’re an Atheist. We get it. Congratulations. Now find a hobby.

  • The declaration that religious faith shall be unpunished does not give immunity to criminal acts dictated by religious error.
    – Thomas Jefferson,

  • hate-filled little person? – Is that What Jesus would Do? Propagate HATE? I think not. Hippocrite..

  • It is always to be taken for granted, that those who oppose an equality of rights never mean the exclusion should take place on themselves.
    – Thomas Paine,

  • Erik Christy says:

    Oh well, at least one of you wingers is admitting he’s in the minority…

  • Erik Christy says:

    Sorry, Micheal Haskins…just looked at your FB page and it doesn’t appear you’re one of the haters like I thought.

  • bignevermo says:

    “God did give mankind His law of marriage, and when God gives homosexuals the ability to naturally reproduce and replenish His earth, I don’t believe they will have any conflict with those who respect the sanctity of marriage and family.”
    So marriage is only for those who can reproduce? Thats laughable. Marriage is a civil contract…not a religious one…at least not strictly…marriages happen all the time outside the scope of religion…SSM does not affect your marriage…they have that right of the pursuit of happiness…equal rights!

  • dtaron says:

    I had no idea! Here I have been going through life understanding that the US Constitution says that it’s the Supreme Court who determine whether or not a law is constitutional. I had no idea that this function was assigned to individual law enforcement officers. Thanks for the, um, enlightenment.

  • It is my sad duty to report that you are a lying unAmerican piece of shit.

  • Given these stringent qualifications for marriage, I, a woman, would not have been allowed to marry my husband (male) because I couldn’t have children. Should those who adopt to create families be banned from marriage? It’s no different, and your argument is hurtful and unfair.

  • BeeGood says:

    So Are the people replying to your comments say it’s okay to mate with a goat and marry a goat?

  • GAFAPilot says:

    Err, which particular ‘God’ are you referring to: Thor, Zeus, Poseidon, Shiva, Venus, Vishnu, Janus, Horus, Rama, Nugua, Aphrodite, Apollo, Athtart, Freya, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc…. and how do you know that you’ve chosen the right one? And what about all those people who do not ‘believe’ in your particular flavour sky fairy?!

  • BeeGood says:

    I’m sorry are you discriminating against me because I’m white or because I’m a working class person? Hmmm whose tolerant of whom?

  • BeeGood says:

    I’m sorry are you discriminating against me because I’m white or because I’m a working class person? Hmmm who is tolerant of whom?

  • Emily says:

    They would probly get a better response door to door then the Mormons do… P:

  • Rebecca Logan says:

    BeeGood, how are you being discriminated against? What rights have been removed from you because of marriage equality? What freedoms do you no longer have because two men or two women are now allowed to marry each other? Be specific. How has this changed anything for you?

  • Bill says:

    The law is all about the legal status of the relationships themselves. People can still be together, and still make legal agreements between them. But the government doesn’t have a constitutional duty to recognize all forms of human relationships.

  • Bill says:

    Michael, I don’t think you should have the CONSTITUTIONAL right to marry a husband because I don’t see that in the constitution. My argument is about the constitutionality of it. I believe you should and do have the right to be in a committed homosexual relationship with someone. And in terms of policy, I believe that homosexual marriage is only fair. And the reason it concerns me is that it has become a constitutional issue, highly driven by emotion, that will set precedent for years to come.

  • northalabama says:

    so, bill, you’re for equal rights, until they equal your rights?

  • Roger Prows says:

    Bill, you do realize that the constitution is a flexible document and does not comprehensively cover all rights don’t you?

  • PavePusher says:

    First, Ninth and Tenth Amendments. The Constitution is not a list of “you may do this”. It is a list of “Government may NOT do this”.

  • pavepusher says:

    Actually, it does, unless it can demonstrate an overwhelming need not to. Which it can’t….

  • BeeGood says:

    Rebecca Logan, I was replying to a post that stated the people in the room were “white shabby red necks”, so am I being discriminated against because I’m white or because I’m working class?

  • Fred Lyman says:

    NO! – Beegood this is not discrimination. This is a description!
    I can’t and won’t judge how accurate – I wasn’t there – but ‘white shabby, rednecks’ is clearly a description.

    Discrimination would be refusing to hire you, rent to you or not allowing you all your civil rights under the Constitution and the law…because you were – IF you were – a ‘white shabby redneck’!

    Can you see how that’s different?

  • BeeGood says:

    Fred Lyman, I would like to respond but every time I try to write the truth they won’t post my comments. So go on believing what you read here.

  • Intrinsic says:

    “The truth,” BeeGood, or misinformation & lies that you’ve made up in your head?
    There was no actual racial slur, your rights are not being limited or taken away, and criticism is not the same as discrimination.

    Someone disagreeing with you, or not enforcing your prejudices through law, is not discrimination. Homosexuals are being refused basic rights, being beaten & even killed just for who they are EVERY DAY. That is discrimination.

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