Plan to hold shorter LDS meetings in Boston Stake canceled

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FILE: The LDS Church's Temple Square in Salt Lake City.

SALT LAKE CITY — A two-month experiment in a Boston, Massachusetts LDS Stake to shorten Sunday meeting services has been canceled.

Boston stake leaders with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints announced they were going to test the new schedule beginning in January. The plan has been canceled after recognizing it was not within Church guidelines, according to a statement from LDS Church Headquarters.

The full statement reads:

“After recognizing it was not within Church guidelines, local Church leadership in the Boston Massachusetts Stake decided to drop plans to shorten the standard Sunday worship meeting schedule. The two-month experiment set to begin in the stake in January was planned locally with good intentions to better observe the Sabbath Day.”

John Dehlin, the man behind the Mormon Stories podcast who was excommunicated for apostasy, posted on Facebook Sunday that the Boston LDS Stake had plans to change their meeting from three hours to two hours and 15 minutes.

“Sacrament will be last. Elimination of all but essential Sunday meetings, i.e. fewer firesides, choir rehearsals, etc. Emphasis of the day is taking of the Sacrament and having time for families,” Dehlin wrote on Facebook.


    • Jordan

      Bob, John has invested his entire life, hundreds of thousands of both hours and dollars in the Church, not to mention basically his whole family is still active in the Church. He has countless friends and followers who are indeed active in the Church in the Boston area (where the Church is, indeed, truer, as they say…). To say he still has interest (and those he is friends with on social media have interest) in any changes in church policy, however minor, is an understatement. So to say John has “no dog in the fight” is to grossly misrepresent what it’s like to go through what John has gone through. I think a far better question is why you, commenter Bob, feel like you have a dog in the fight about what John posts on his personal page. I mean, you took the time to comment here, didn’t you? My only dog in this fight is that maybe someone reading this, maybe you, stops to think about what it must be like for people who leave (or are ex’ed from) the Church after a lifetime of involvement. Empathy is the true Mormon way.


        Sorry Jordan by John Dehlin was excommunicated from the LDS Church for apostasy. John’s wounds were intentionally self inflicted. There is only one person responsible for the loss of Mr. Dehlin’s membership in the LDS Church and that is John.

    • Jolyon

      Well, if it’s the only true church with authority to administer saving ordinances essential for salvation, don’t all of His children have a dog in the fight? If it’s just a club for certain people, an organization of men, then no, he has no dog in the fight.


        If the LDS Church is the only true church with authority to administer saving ordinances essential for salvation then by definition it also has the authority to remove those saving ordinances from those who are excommunicated. Probably why they worked long and hard with Mr. Dehlin before holding his church court.
        We call it consequences Jolyon, and they are attached to our actions. Those who commit adultry or cold blooded murder face the same court.


        By the way Jolyon, if Mr. Dehlin wanted to bring his life back into harmony with the teachings of his former church they would welcome him back with open arms. Problem is that pride makes it very difficult for a man to admit he was wrong.

  • Himer man

    I would guess that he is from Cambridge seems to me from what the elders have seen and heard there at church is quite extreme and I little over the top

  • Jolyon Folkett

    Hey bob, If you were in my high priests group I would suggest you read the story of the prodigal son. Then ask yourself, 1
    who is the father, 2. Who is John? And 3 which one are you? Then think about pride some more. Then as a Mormon take the moral high ground and repent. He has free agency to comment on our church. We are christian enough to defend his legal rights even when we don’t agree with his opinion. Because we is all meek and humble. Isn’t we? Or is it different in the USA?


      @Jolyon Folkett
      As a member of the LDS Church you have no “legal right” to come out in open rebellion against the teachings of your church. Kate Kelly of Ordain Women Now found that out the hard way. If John Dehlin wants to repent he’d be welcomed back just like the prodigal son. The choice, and the consequences, are his and his alone to make.
      You should know that Jolyon.

      • Jolyon Folkett

        He has a right to free speech. He commented on a true story. You attack him personally. Some LDS are christian. Clearly you and I like to bicker. But I’ve changed my mind. He has no stake in this pun not intended and isn’t it best that a person with no personal involvement should report and comment rather than the fan club of just one side be the only commentator?


        Yes, as a non-member John has the right to free speech. As a non-member however John has no dog in this fight. That’s what another Bob first observed, and he was 100% correct.


        John Dehlin exercised his right to free speech. As a consequence he was warned by LDS Church leaders that his teachings were not in harmony with those of his church. When he continued to ignore those warnings his membership in the Church was taken. Mr. Dehlin had apostatized long before he was excommunicated.

  • brad

    Oh, that is funny. a stake in the LDS church going rogue! Don’t they know that the LDS God does not allow adherents to go rogue? LOL


      God has always commanded obedience Brad. There have always been those who chose to disobey, but there has never been anyone able to escape the consequences of their choices.

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