Gov. Herbert talks 2015 legislative session, says he will veto bill regarding concealed carry

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SALT LAKE CITY -- The 2015 session of the Utah Legislature comes to an end Thursday, and Utah Gov. Gary Herbert sat down with FOX 13 News as the clock crept closer to midnight and the official end of the session.

During his interview, Herbert spoke about several bills that were up for debate this year and discussed a few bills he planned to sign and one he intends to veto. He started by talking about plans to seek a solution to Medicaid expansion in Utah, an issue that brought contentious debate to the Capitol. A deal was not reached during the session, but a special session could be in the works.

Herbert said he plans to veto SB256, which amends Utah's laws so that anyone who is 21 years of age or older would be able to carry a concealed weapon, even without a concealed weapon permit.

The governor also spoke about bills he will look closely at, like HB11--which would bring back the firing squad as a possible method of execution. The firing squad would only be an option if the drugs used for lethal injection were to become unavailable.

Herbert also said he will sign SB297, which is a bill that allows county clerks and various state officials to opt out of performing marriages for same-sex couples. The bill provides a stipulation that the county clerk's office would have to have one employee, or someone in the community on standby, who would be willing to perform same-sex marriages.

See the video above for Herbert's interview with FOX 13 News' Ben Winslow.


    • C'MON KDC

      Gov. Herbert won the last election 68.4% over Peter Cooke who managed to eke out 28%. Apparently you don’t know what Utahns want KDC.

      • Richard Goodman

        Let’s see what happens next election cycle. Herbert is amassing enemies, and may not get the Republican nomination. We’ll have to see if someone decides to run against him and where that person stands on the issues.

      • Brian

        You’re comparing a republican candidate in Utah against his democrat challenger. Of course he won with 68.4% of the vote. Put up a real republican against him in the primaries and it won’t be such a landslide. Unfortunately we have been forced to choose the lesser of two evils every time he has run for governor. I would vote for a democrat if I felt they would do a better job of representing me, but their thinking is in the wrong direction. I don’t want someone more liberal than Governor Herbert.

  • TruthSeeker

    Wow! Republican governor Herbert doesn’t believe in the United States Constitution and the Bill or Rights. He doesn’t understand “…shall not be infringed.” Many states are quickly passing the constitutional carry legislation, but not our governor who thinks he knows what is best for us.


      I’m comfortable requiring our citizens to know something about laws concerning the use of deadly force before strapping on a concealed firearm.

      • Brian

        So you think that someone who can legally open carry a gun should become a criminal simply for putting on a jacket? Whether it’s concealed or open carry, this bill wouldn’t change who can legally carry a firearm.


        Brian: Any private citizen who thinks it’s cool to run around town with an exposed .45 auto strapped to his hip has a serious self image problem. Folks just aren’t going to be impressed with his macho facade.

        Anybody who has to ask such a dumb question doesn’t have the maturity to carry concealed. Better stick with your orange tipped airsoft gun Brian.

      • Richard Goodman

        C’MON TRUTHSEEKER…Instead of insulting Brian, why not answer his question? I’ll ask it too. If a person can legally open carry a gun, why should it be a crime if that gun gets covered up with a shirt or jacket? I doubt you have any sort of logical reason why, and that’s why you just deflect and insult.


        Question: “If a person can legally open carry a gun, why should it be a crime if that gun gets covered up with a shirt or jacket?”

        Because the State of Utah, by law, requires a concealed carry permit to cover the gun up. When there is a law and you violate it you can be arrested.

        If you want to run around town with a firearm exposed people will question your childish behavior.

      • Richard Goodman

        C’MON TRUTHSEEKER. Well, you still didn’t answer the question. We already know that the current law says if you want to legally carry a concealed gun, that you have to go through the permitting process. But saying “it’s the law” when legislation is proposed (and actually passed 2 years ago) to change that law isn’t a valid answer. What logical reason is there for criminalizing a legally open carried gun when it gets covered up? Why is that such a heinous act? Think about this…criminals intent on doing evil will already be carrying concealed (illegally). Why shouldn’t law abiding citizens be able to do the same so they can defend themselves? If you can legally carry the gun (not a restricted person) doesn’t requiring a permit to carry that same gun concealed violate the “shall not be infringed” that’s in both the US and Utah Constitutions?

      • Brian

        c’mon truthseeker, you’re not even arguing the same thing that I am. You are obviously scared of people walking around with an exposed handgun strapped on. All this law would do is allow that person to cover their gun without becoming a criminal for doing so. I would think someone with such disdain for guns, like yourself, would be happy to have the gun covered up so they don’t upset your sensitivities.


    BRIAN – Folks who carry for a living have long since learned to judge and evaluate the folks around them. If you want to pick the fool out of the crowd look for the young, uneducated individual who is desperately seeking to portray the tough guy image. You won’t find older men like that because they all know that carrying is a pain in the neck.

    So tough guy, do you prefer an IWB holster, are you more the ankle holster type, or are shoulder holsters your dress for the day? May I suggest the shoulder holster. That way you can pack around 3 or 4 extra magazines of your favorite .44 mag ammon. :)


      I assume you’re referring to the Auto Mag Corp. .44 cal auto magnum. I seriously doubt a man like Truthseeker would carry anything smaller that the .454 Casull. He never knows when it might come in handy saving a fair maiden.


    Brian / Truthseeker: A word of advice: If you don’t have a CCW it would be best not to carry concealed on TRAX. You’ll lose your firearm and spend time in jail/prison.

  • Worlok

    It’s too bad the house didn’t vote on the ccw bill. Senate was pro amendment by a landslide. I guess I’ll stick to carrying my full size, 7-shot combat revolver on my hip where everybody can see it and feel intimidated if they don’t believe in the constitution or start a friendly conversation with me if they are real Americans. There seem to be a whole hell of a lot of very friendly real Americans.


      People aren’t going to feel intimidated by you or your firearm Worlok. The first indication a criminal should have that you are carrying is when his sees the flame coming out of the barrel. When a fool carries exposed the first that enters a criminal’s mind is “he’s got it and I’m going to wait my chance to take it away from him”.

      By the way Worlok, you wouldn’t pass the psychological testing applicants for a career in law enforcement take.

  • TJdrowning

    I am for constitutional carry, however I do understand Gov. Herbert side as well. Many who own guns and do not have a concealed carry permit leave their weapons at home. They legally can open carry, but many do not feel comfortable walking around with a gun exposed on their hip. There is definitely an added risk when everyone knows you are the one carrying a firearm. I understand that the CWP course covers important gun laws, situations and scenarios where it would be appropriate and not appropriate to discharge a weapon. If the S.B. 256 was passed an increase of both responsible and irresponsible gun holders will be carrying (which could be arguably be both a good and bad thing). The question would be, would more situations start to rise where newly conceal carrying citizens that are not as educated in the gun laws more frequently discharge inappropriately? (Some one wants to be hero and fires in a situation that clearly didn’t need to be engaged in etc.) In my opinion, I don’t think so. Other states has successfully put Constitutional carry into practice without this problem to broadly occurring. I guess the way Gov. Herbert sees it is, if you want to conceal carry you can do so by taking a class and paying the fee. By having this small regulation it allows those who want to responsibly carry to do so. Those who don’t can open carry at their own risk and possibly be stopped by every suspicious cop :(. Either way, I plan on getting my concealed carry permit if the law passes or not since it will allow me to CC on the college campus I go to as well be an informative class that will help me not break any laws I didn’t know about. I think to sum up my thoughts, I think the constitution carry is a good idea, but I understand the concerns some have. God Bless America! Thanks.

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